From U.S. Census records I've gathered the names of Christian's children (and given their approximate birth years based on the census records).
- Emma (~1847)
- Frederick (~1849)
- Isabell / Elisabeth / Lizzie (~1851)
- Charles (~1853)
- Christena / Christopher / Christian (~1854)
- John (~1856)
Mary Stahl is named as mother on
- Emma (Gerner) Vensel's death certificate (1846-1922)
- Christian Gerner's death certificate (1854-1935)
Mary E. (could it be Mary Elizabeth?) is named as mother on
- Charles Gerner's death certificate (name is Mary E. Sthal [sic]) (1851-1929)
Frederick Gerner's death certificate gives no names for either parent. (And wouldn't you know, Fred's my direct ancestor.)
Elizabeth/Elisabeth appears as Christian's wife (and identified as such only in the 1880 census) in
- 1860 U.S. Census, age 37, with Christian Gardner, Fairview Township, Butler County, Pennsylvania
- 1870 U.S. Census, age 45, with Christopher Gardner, Fairview Township, Butler County, Pennsylvania
- 1880 U.S. Census, age 56, with Christian Garner, Fairview Township, Butler County, Pennsylvania
The following information was added by FamilySearch with no source information given. To my mind it confuses the situation more than clarifies it.
- Elizabeth Stahl is named as Christian Gerner's wife and Emma Gerner's mother.
- Christian could have been married twice. All of the children on these records were born before the family appeared on their first U.S. Census in 1860. Mary could have died after giving birth to the youngest child in 1856 and Christian could have married Elizabeth.
- Could Mary and Elizabeth have been sisters?
- Mary/Mary E. and Elizabeth could be the same person.
I have been unable to find death records for either Mary Gerner or Elizabeth Gerner, nor a marriage record for Christian and Elizabeth. (Christian and Mary would have been married in Germany before arriving in the U.S.) Considering that my only records for Mary/Elizabeth are census and death certificates, anything is possible.
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